{"id":243492,"date":"2010-05-28T00:00:00","date_gmt":"2010-05-28T07:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/sdnews.com\/willing-to-live-with-it\/"},"modified":"2010-05-28T00:00:00","modified_gmt":"2010-05-28T07:00:00","slug":"willing-to-live-with-it","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/test.sdnews.com\/es\/willing-to-live-with-it\/","title":{"rendered":"\u2018Willing to live with it\u2019"},"content":{"rendered":"<figure id=\"attachment_4087\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-4087\" style=\"width: 300px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"https:\/\/sduptownnews.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/05\/new-sign1.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" data-src=\"https:\/\/sduptownnews.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/05\/new-sign1-300x163.jpg\" alt=\"\u2018Willing to live with it\u2019\" title=\"new sign\" width=\"300\" height=\"163\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-4087 lazyload\" src=\"data:image\/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAAAAACH5BAEKAAEALAAAAAABAAEAAAICTAEAOw==\" style=\"--smush-placeholder-width: 300px; --smush-placeholder-aspect-ratio: 300\/163;\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-4087\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The current design proposal,  a replica of the Kensington sign installed in December 1954, is awaiting approval by the city's development services department.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><strong>Kensington residents see new sign as lackluster compromise <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Por Pat Sherman<br \/>\nAsistente de edici\u00f3n SDUN<\/p>\n<p>After years of bitter debate that nearly ended in litigation, the neon sign that once seemed to float magically in the night sky above Kensington \u2014 and which has been conspicuously absent during this year\u2019s centennial festivities  \u2014 may soon make a reappearance, or at least a facsimile of it.<\/p>\n<p>The sign, which extended across Adams Avenue from the branch library steps, was taken down in October 2008, just months after the San Diego Historical Resources Board deemed it historically significant. The board required that every effort be made to repair and restore the original sign, or that an exact replica be erected in its place.<\/p>\n<p>San Diego&#8217;s Development Services Department is currently reviewing plans for a near replica of the original sign, which was installed in December 1954. The Kensington-Talmadge Community Association said the old sign was too corroded and timeworn to salvage. <\/p>\n<p>If approved, the sign would be constructed and installed by Spring-Valley-based Fluoresco Lighting &#038; Signs.<br \/>\nThe original sign, composed of steel and composite tin would be replaced by a lightweight, less expensive and more durable aluminum replica that is less prone to rust and oxidation. <\/p>\n<p>Harold Koenig, president of the association, which owns and maintains the sign, said that if the city approves the permit, the new sign could be finished in time for a Thanksgiving dedication ceremony. <\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt won\u2019t take very long to build,\u201d Koenig said. \u201cThe manufacturers tell us six weeks to two months.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Some minor structural changes for the new sign were required to meet modern building codes. Cables that once held the sign aloft and allowed it to sway in the breeze will now be rigid and thicker, suggesting the original design element while keeping the sign firmly in place. Support poles on either side of the street also will be wider.<\/p>\n<p>Most of the pink neon letters from the old sign will be salvaged and used in the new design.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe will reuse all the tubes that aren\u2019t broken, which is all but one letter as far as I know,\u201d Koenig said. \u201cThere may be some cracks in others that are discovered when we try to refill them with gas.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>If the city approves it, the new sign would be located 8 \u00bd feet west of the original, placing it in the center of the block, Koenig said. <\/p>\n<p>The sign\u2019s location must be altered because cement cores surrounding the original poles\u2019 base would be too costly and labor intensive to remove, Koenig said. The old poles will be cut off at the base, and a plaque placed in the concrete marking the location of the original sign.<\/p>\n<p>Though Kensington residents say they will be happy to have a sign again, neither the historic purists who insisted that the original sign be restored, nor those who favored a new design, are expressing complete satisfaction with the resulting compromise.<\/p>\n<p>In votes conducted before and after the sign received its historic designation, a narrow majority of Kensington residents said they preferred a new design. It featured an arched sign with a trestle support system, decorative lampposts and river rock pillars. <\/p>\n<p>Though the historic designation would have prohibited that ornate design from consideration, association members continued to promote it  \u2013 a point of contention among those who favored a restoration or replication of the original, straight-top sign with simple gray poles. <\/p>\n<p>The association raised about $85,000 for the sign project through a $40,000 grant from the county and Supervisor Ron Roberts, as well as about 370 individual donations of between $10 and $500.<\/p>\n<p>Roberts said the time frame in which the grant was to be spent had to be expanded. <\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Normally we&#8217;re expecting projects will be initiated within a 12-month period,&#8221; Roberts said. &#8220;Clearly, this wasn&#8217;t. &#8230; This is one of the longest (delays) we&#8217;ve ever seen.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p> Association treasurer Thomas Ciaraffo said the association spent about $8,000 on its initial design and mail ballots. <\/p>\n<p>More than a dozen people who favored a restoration or a new design asked that their donation be returned, resulting in a loss of about $4,000.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThey were just so furious,\u201d Koenig said. \u201cAlmost every week (other) people come up to me and say, \u2018You know, I can live with it but I sure would have liked the other (design).\u2019\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Ciaraffo said Fluoresco had not yet given the association an exact price for the job, though Koenig estimated it would cost between $75,000 and $80,000. <\/p>\n<p>\u201cI am of the belief that it will be within our budget or somewhat less than our budget,&#8221; Ciaraffo said.<\/p>\n<p>The association was prepared to approach the City Council to seek an appeal of the Historical Resources Board\u2019s determination and pursue a new design, which would have set the project back by at least another year. Association leadership contacted an attorney, expecting that the matter could wind up in litigation. While the association was willing to wait out the Council\u2019s decision, they balked at the estimated $25,000-plus in legal fees it would have cost to fight the Historical Resources Board, Ciaraffo said.<\/p>\n<p> \u201cAt that point we said, \u2018Thank you very much. Let\u2019s see if we can come to some sort of a compromise,\u2019\u201d he said.<\/p>\n<p>Louise Guarnotta, the association\u2019s membership chair, favored yet another design that would have replicated the original sign, while using more decorative support poles, similar to what are used in the Encinitas sign, or the existing light poles. <\/p>\n<p>\u201cThey\u2019re fluted and they\u2019re a pretty forest green and it would match some of the other things, like the playground equipment across the street from where the sign is going to be,\u201d Guarnotta said. \u201cI\u2019m disappointed because I think we\u2019re missing an opportunity to kind of enhance the neighborhood a little bit.<\/p>\n<p> \u201cThe majority of residents had voted with their money to have a new sign,\u201d she said. \u201cIt\u2019s too bad that majority can\u2019t rule in this case \u2026 but I understand the process and I\u2019m willing to live with it.\u201d<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_4088\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-4088\" style=\"width: 300px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"https:\/\/sduptownnews.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/05\/sign-removal-3.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" data-src=\"https:\/\/sduptownnews.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/05\/sign-removal-3-300x225.jpg\" alt=\"\u2018Willing to live with it\u2019\" title=\"sign removal 3\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-4088 lazyload\" src=\"data:image\/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAAAAACH5BAEKAAEALAAAAAABAAEAAAICTAEAOw==\" style=\"--smush-placeholder-width: 300px; --smush-placeholder-aspect-ratio: 300\/225;\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-4088\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The original Kensington sign, removed in October 2008, was used as a model for a replica design that is awaiting city permits. The sign is being stored in Fluoresco's Spring Valley warehouse.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Celia Conover, a graphic artist and Kensington resident who preferred restoration of the original sign, made the initial contact with the Historical Resources Board to obtain its historic designation. Before the sign was taken down and moved to a Fluoresco&#8217;s warehouse in Spring Valley, it had been the oldest of San Diego\u2019s neighborhood signs. <\/p>\n<p>\u201cMaybe some people preferred the new version, but majority doesn\u2019t rule in the case of historic designation,\u201d Conover said. \u201cIt\u2019s a bigger symbol for the city than just a few people\u2019s opinions.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Conover said more decorative neighborhood signs in San Diego County might look nice, but they aren&#8217;t original and create \u201ca false sense of history.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cNormal Heights and Kensington had the original deal,\u201d Conover said. \u201cTo me it was kind of insanity to take down the original, basically junk it, and (try to) put up a sort of overblown new design.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Koenig and Guarnotta maintain that the original sign was too corroded, contained dangerous levels of lead (from peeling paint) and leaked polychlorinated biphenyls, or PCBs, which the National Cancer Institute has classified as probable human carcinogens \u2013 health factors that preservationists claim the association inflated to push their preferred design. <\/p>\n<p> \u201cIt was this cheap sheet metal that had been up there for 60 year,\u201d Guarnotta said.  \u201cThere was nothing you could do with it.\u201d <\/p>\n<p>Darrel Divine, a branch manager with Fluoresco, confirmed that assessment. <\/p>\n<p>&#8220;There was absolutely no way to restore it,&#8221; Divine said, noting that the interior frame was severely rusted. <\/p>\n<p>Wiring redone in the early 1990&#8217;s had deteriorated due to birds nesting inside the frame, defecating and decomposing after being electrocuted, he said.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Any time you get a bird inside of a sign they do a tremendous amount of damage,&#8221; Divine said. <\/p>\n<p>Conover said she can live with the current proposal, though she feels the association wasted time and money promoting designs that would have ultimately been rejected. Due to the sign\u2019s age, it would have had to go before the Historical Resources Board. By working to obtain the designation herself, Conover said she wasn\u2019t being an obstructionist, but merely saving time by advancing an inevitable determination. <\/p>\n<p>Kensington resident Daniel Soderberg, who favored restoring the old sign, noted a similar dispute in Coronado, where historic preservationists prefer refurbishing the Coronado Theatre\u2019s terrazzo tile, while city staff recommends new terrazzo be installed. In that case, however, the terrazzo was examined to determine its historic significance and condition before plans were drawn up for their possible replacement, Soderberg said.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThat\u2019s what didn\u2019t happen in Kensington,\u201d he said. \u201cYou had the fox guarding the chicken coup.\u201d <\/p>\n<p>The current design plans were first shown to the community as early as January, Conover said. <\/p>\n<p>\u201cI don\u2019t understand why he (Koenig) has continued to let the clock run out \u2026 (and) to delay getting permits and getting it approved,\u201d she said. \u201cThat\u2019s been a very frustrating thing\u2026 . The community\u2019s really tired of the issue and everybody just wants the sign finished and back in its place.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Roberts said that if the project were to be pushed back by another year or two he&#8217;d consider &#8220;reprogramming&#8221; the county grant for alternate uses in the Kensington-Talmadge area. <\/p>\n<p>&#8220;We have no shortage of things that need to be done (there),&#8221; he said<\/p>\n<p>The office of District 3 Councilmember Todd Gloria submitted a letter of support for the current design plans May 24. <\/p>\n<p>&#8220;That particular (design) will ensure that we get the sign up during the centennial year for Kensington,&#8221; Gloria said.<br \/>\n&#8220;I think the common denominator, no matter which version you might prefer, (is that) everyone wants to see the sign up sooner, rather than later.&#8221;<\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Kensington residents see new sign as lackluster compromise By Pat Sherman SDUN Assistant Editor After years of bitter debate that nearly ended in litigation, the neon sign that once seemed to float magically in the night sky above Kensington \u2014 and which has been conspicuously absent during this year\u2019s centennial festivities \u2014 may soon make [&hellip;]<\/p>","protected":false},"author":726,"featured_media":243493,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"11555","_seopress_titles_title":"\u2018Willing to live with it\u2019","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","jnews-multi-image_gallery":[],"jnews_single_post":[],"jnews_primary_category":[],"jnews_social_meta":[],"jnews_override_counter":[],"footnotes":""},"categories":[11551,11555],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-243492","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-news","category-uptown-news"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/test.sdnews.com\/es\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/243492","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/test.sdnews.com\/es\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/test.sdnews.com\/es\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/test.sdnews.com\/es\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/726"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/test.sdnews.com\/es\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=243492"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/test.sdnews.com\/es\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/243492\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/test.sdnews.com\/es\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/243493"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/test.sdnews.com\/es\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=243492"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/test.sdnews.com\/es\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=243492"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/test.sdnews.com\/es\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=243492"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}