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Albert Fulcher | Editor <\/strong><\/p>\n

Takei opens up San Diego GI Film Festival<\/strong><\/p>\n

With an acting career bridging six decades, George Takei is known internationally for his role in the hailed \u201cStar Trek\u201d television and movie enterprise as Hikaru Sulu, helmsman of the Starship Enterprise. After spending his young years imprisoned in Japanese-American internment camps during World War II, he became one of the country’s leading figures in the fight for social justice, LGBTQ rights, and marriage equality. Mashable.com named Takei the No. 1 most-influential person on Facebook.<\/p>\n

Takei hosts the AARP-produced YouTube series \u201cTakei\u2019s Take,\u201d and is the subject of \u201cTo Be Takei.\u201d Takei and his husband Brad Takei bring viewers into their personal life in the heightened reality web series, \u201cIt Takeis Two,\u201d on YouTube.<\/p>\n

Takei made his Broadway debut with the musical, \u201cAllegiance,\u201d in San Diego, which ran in New York 2015-16. Coming back to San Diego, Takei premiered the short film \u201cAmerican\u201d at the San Diego GI Film Festival at the Museum of Photographic Arts on Sept. 25.<\/p>\n

Openly gay, Takei is a fervent advocate for social justice, human right issues, equality for all and a community activist.<\/p>\n

How did you get involved with \u201cAmerican\u201d and why did you choose to play the role?<\/strong><\/p>\n

It started with a call from Richie Adams [writer and director], and the more he talked, the more excited I got. First of all, the internment of Japanese-Americans and the heroism of the young men that were taken from barbed wire imprisonment who fought with such incredible, amazing valor and heroism \u2014 the telling of their story is very important to me.<\/p>\n

As many people know, my mission in life is to try and raise awareness of that chapter of American history, the imprisonment of Japanese-Americans. Because of the inability of this country to draw the distinction between the Japan that bombed us and American citizens of Japanese descent, they [the government] thought we were the same as them.<\/p>\n

I grew up from 5 to 8 1\/2 years old in three of those camps, transferring from one to the other. He [Adams] told me that the executive producer of this project, Ken Whitney, was married to a Japanese-American woman. Her mother was my father\u2019s secretary in the Arkansas camp that we were imprisoned at. My father was a block manager. Each block had a block manager who was the liaison between the camp command and also [dealt] with whatever issues came up within the block.<\/p>\n

I remember that. She was a young teenager then. I went to my father\u2019s office and she was tapping away at this amazing machine [he laughed, a typewriter] \u00a0\u2014 I was 5 [years old] and had never seen that. It fascinated me. That woman is the mother of Whitney\u2019s wife. One of the cast members, in typical Hollywood fashion, is the daughter of the executive producer. That family connection intrigued me. He [Adams] sent me the script, some other reading material for the short film, and the story of heroism of those young men who were drafted out of those barbed wire prison camps is an important story.<\/p>\n

It\u2019s really a small world and a world of not coincidences, but I think this was all meant to be. In San Diego, I did another passion project of mine, \u201cAllegiance,\u201d a musical at The Old Globe Theater. It was the biggest box office success in Old Globe history. I love San Diego because of all of these wonderful things that have happened in connection with San Diego. These projects, that happened in almost a pre-ordained way, is something in life that I believe that some force is controlling our lives. That\u2019s how \u201cAmerican\u201d came to me.<\/p>\n

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Where you able to contribute to the creative process in this film?<\/strong><\/p>\n

I shared a lot the information that I have gathered in my life. I\u2019m 81 years old now. I learned a lot about the internment from my father primarily. Many Japanese-Americans did not talk about this history with their children because it was painful \u2014 they felt degraded by it and didn\u2019t want to inflict their children with it. Particularly, after \u201cAllegiance,\u201d people would come backstage and tell me that their parents or grandparents had been in the internment camps. When I asked them, \u201cWhich one were they in?\u201d their faces were blank. \u201cWere they in Wyoming, Arkansas, Arizona, Idaho?\u201d I questioned them. They knew nothing about the camps because their parents had never talked to them about it. One person told me their father was a soldier in WWII and I asked if he was with the 442nd [Infantry Regiment, best known for its history as a fighting unit composed almost entirely of second-generation soldiers of Japanese ancestry who fought in WWII], and she said, \u201cI think he was with the Japanese army.\u201d They were so ashamed of the imprisonment that they wouldn\u2019t even talk about their fighting with the U.S. Army.<\/p>\n

So I was able to share a lot of what I know, some of the details of camp with Richie Adams.<\/p>\n

Immediately after the bombing of Pearl Harbor, young Japanese-Americans, like many young Americans, rushed to the recruiting office to volunteer to serve in the U.S. military. This act of patriotism was answered with a slap in the face. They were denied to serve and were categorized as enemy aliens, which was outrageous. This was a patriotic act, and to call them enemies was crazy and absolutely insane. And equally insane was to call them aliens. They were born, raised, educated \u2026 they were Americans. That\u2019s the kind of hysteria that Japanese-Americans were subjected to.<\/p>\n

At the age of 5, I was classified as an enemy alien too. But I was 100 percent non-alien. I was American. My mother was born in Sacramento and my father was a San Franciscan, and they married in Los Angeles, where I was born. And then, to take everything away from us, impoverish us, and imprison us for the duration of the war was crazy.<\/p>\n

A year into the war, there was a manpower shortage. They needed men. And all these people they insanely categorized as enemies and aliens tried to figure out how to justify how to recruit these people [to fight the war with Americans]. So they [government] came up with this loyalty questionnaire, demanding our loyalty, after they took everything away from us. That was outrageous. It was about 35 questions, but the most offensive one was question 28, which was one sentence with two conflicting ideas. It asked, \u201cWill you swear your loyalty to the United States of America and forswear your loyalty to the emperor of Japan?\u201d They thought we had an inborn racial loyalty to the emperor. It was insulting, it was galling. If you answered no, it also applied to the first part of the sentence. If you answered yes, it also applied to the second part of the sentence as an admittance of guilt that you had been loyal to the emperor but were now willing to forswear it.<\/p>\n

To underscore this incredibleness of the whole thing, these young men \u2014 and women too \u2014 bit the bullet, answered yes to the question and went on to serve the U.S. military. Women were put into WAC [Women\u2019s Army Corps], and the men were placed in segregated groups and [were] literally used as cannon fire, sent out in waves, with an ironic way to say it, on these banzai charges.<\/p>\n

The movie is about a veteran of the 442nd [Infantry Regiment]. He saw his buddies die right next to him. The character I play is a veteran in his 90s who volunteers at the Japanese American National Museum. A museum which I am one of the founders of, [serving as] chairman of the board from 2000-2004. He volunteers as a docent to honor his buddies that died. This subject is so near and dear to me, I was impelled to do this film.<\/p>\n

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With two films on opening night that deal with the role of Japanese-Americans during WWII, how important do you believe this is to document their roles in U.S. history?<\/strong><\/p>\n

It\u2019s crucially important now [to document this history] in these two years that we have been living through [\u2026] the same thing being repeated again. Donald Trump, immediately when he became president in February 2017, signed the first Muslim travel ban. Just like us, we looked like the people that bombed Pearl Harbor \u2014 it is the same broad-brushed mentality. All people of the Muslim faith are potential terrorists [to Trump] and I was so outraged.<\/p>\n

After he signed the first executive order of a complete and total ban of all Muslims coming into the country, thousands of young Americans rushed to the airports all over the country to protest, attorneys rushed to volunteer pro-bono their services for immigrants from the Middle East, and the Deputy Attorney of the U.S. Sally Yates refused to defend that first travel ban.<\/p>\n

The people of America had learned through the internment of Japanese-Americans, but that idiot in the White House had not learned, so he signed a second Muslim ban. Again attorney generals from around the country challenged that. He finally did another selective Muslim travel ban and the Supreme Court, just a few months ago, upheld that. But the irony there is that on the same day, they overturned the Korematsu [v. United States] decision of 1944 when the Supreme Court then upheld the internment of Japanese-Americans. Sometime in the future, a Supreme Court will be overturning this Muslim travel ban that this Supreme Court upheld.<\/p>\n

Here we are today, we are vetting yet another Supreme Court justice\u2026<\/p>\n

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How do you believe \u201cAmericans\u201d reflects our current border policies and camps conditions?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Calling patriotic young men who are volunteering to fight for this country \u201cenemy aliens\u201d is absolutely crazy \u2014 we are going through it again. But this is worse. At least when we [Japanese-Americans] were interned, our families were intact. What\u2019s happened with this administration is that infants and children are being torn away from their parents. It\u2019s so malevolent; rather than keeping them with their parents, they are scattered all over the country. And with their [government officials] pathetic incompetence, they cannot find them again and put them back together. There are still around 500[children] that have not been reunited. I thought the lowest we [the U.S.] could get was when we [Japanese-Americans] were imprisoned, but the hysteria now \u2014 it is mean and cruel to take these children away from them. These lives have been ruined.<\/p>\n

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During the film festival this year, there are two LGBTQ-themed films. Do you have a message for our LGBTQ active duty members, many who are struggling today, unsure of their military future?<\/strong><\/p>\n

On a lesser scale, \u201cdon\u2019t ask, don\u2019t tell\u201d was a battle we had to fight. It\u2019s absurd. People who had served with great courage, heroism and honor [were] being kicked out simply because of their sexual orientation. It seems to me their service (LGBT\u2019s in the military] with honor should qualify them to serve. In reverse, they were humiliated. And we are also in a stage now where women are fighting for equality like the LGBT community has struggled for. In many ways, the military has been at the spearhead at segregation from African-Americans, Japanese-Americans, and women. The struggle for equality is always ongoing.<\/p>\n

We have to be engaged. The same thing my father said, I\u2019ve applied that to so many other things in my life.\u00a0 The LGBT community has been making advances. I was closeted until 2005. What brought me out was the work of other LGBT activists.<\/p>\n

What was really excruciating for me was the AIDS crisis, when friends were suddenly getting sick and drastically losing weight, getting hospitalized and visiting them as they looked like skeletons. To stay closeted at that time \u2026 but there were other bold LGBT activists who were in the arena sacrificing everything while I was trying to protect my career. I needed my career and couldn\u2019t be out. And because of their activism, we started moving forward.<\/p>\n

In 2005, something extraordinary happened here in California. The state legislature, both the Senate and the Assembly, passed the marriage equality bill. It was the first time in the U.S. that a state passed a marriage equality bill. Massachusetts had marriage equality in 2003, but that came through its state Supreme Court. In California, it was the people\u2019s representatives that passed marriage equality. That bill, in order to become law, needed just one more signature. The governor of the state of California.<\/p>\n

The governor at that time happened to be a movie star, Arnold Schwarzenegger. When he campaigned for the governor\u2019s office, he campaigned by saying, \u201cI\u2019m from Hollywood. I\u2019ve worked with gays and lesbians, so my friends are gays and lesbians.\u201d With a campaign like that, I thought surely after the state legislature had passed it, Schwarzenegger would be compelled to sign it. He vetoed it.<\/p>\n

We have fallible human beings that still get elected, as we well know from the noises coming from the White House. We had that kind of irrationality, that fear at our governor\u2019s office. That irrationality, that fear, got me so angry. I was together with [now-husband] Brad at that time \u2014 we had been together for more than two decades \u2014 so my blood was boiling. That\u2019s when I came out. And I blasted Arnold Schwarzenegger for that and that is when I became \u201cactive,\u201d as my father would have said. He was gone by that time. I joined the Human Rights Campaign, went on a nationwide speaking tour, went to Washington D.C. to lobby Congress, and became my father\u2019s son.<\/p>\n

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Father to son<\/strong><\/p>\n

When I was a teenager and started questioning my father about the internment, how unjust it was, some of those after-dinner conversations got pretty heated. I was an idealistic teenager and in one conversation I said, \u201cDaddy, you led us like sheep to the slaughter when you took us into those barbed wired camps.\u201d Suddenly, the subject stopped. I immediately realized I had gone too far. I still remember the silence. He said, \u201cWell, maybe you\u2019re right.\u201d Then he got up, went into his bedroom, and closed the door.<\/p>\n

I felt terrible. I felt like knocking on the door and apologizing, but since he shut the door, I thought I\u2019d wait until morning. But when morning came, it was even more awkward, and I never apologized to him. But I learned so much about his anguish as a teenager during those after-dinner conversations.<\/p>\n

One of the things he said to me was, \u201cOut of all of the things we went through, despite all, our American democracy is still the best form of government. This is a people\u2019s democracy and the people have the capacity to do great things. In fact, this country had done great things.\u201d<\/p>\n

My parents went through hell and back, it was an anguishing experience for them and I was too young to understand that level, I couldn\u2019t understand how he could say that<\/p>\n

He pointed to the ideals that we learn in the history books, \u201cAll men are created equal, endowed with unalienable rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.\u201d It took great people to articulate that and it took great people to keep that ideal going throughout the history of this country.<\/p>\n

One Sunday afternoon, he drove me downtown [Los Angeles] to the \u201cAdlai Stevenson for President\u201d campaign headquarters. He said we volunteered, but he volunteered me. There, I learned what makes our ideals work. You have to be actively engaged. I\u2019ve been a political activist since then. I owe it to my father\u2019s incredible wisdom.<\/p>\n

After going through what he did, he was still able to not only talk about the internment when so many Japanese-American parents of his generation didn\u2019t, but he also guided me to be an active participant rather than a cynical, imbittered, angry, victim of the internment. He said, \u201cYou are going to actively engage with the people in a democracy.\u201d<\/p>\n

\u2014Albert Fulcher puede ser contactado en albert@sdcnn.com.<\/a><\/em><\/p>\n

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