{"id":232876,"date":"2015-04-10T00:00:00","date_gmt":"2015-04-10T07:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/sdnews.com\/theres-one-thing-decision-makers-agree-on-qualcomms-beyond-saving\/"},"modified":"2015-04-10T00:00:00","modified_gmt":"2015-04-10T07:00:00","slug":"theres-one-thing-decision-makers-agree-on-qualcomms-beyond-saving","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/test.sdnews.com\/es\/theres-one-thing-decision-makers-agree-on-qualcomms-beyond-saving\/","title":{"rendered":"There\u2019s one thing decision-makers agree on: Qualcomm\u2019s beyond saving"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>By Liam Dillon |\u00a0Voice of San Diego<\/p>\n<p>The appeal is obvious. With new football stadiums costing more than <a href=\"http:\/\/data.worldbank.org\/country\/grenada\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">the annual economic output of small island nations<\/a>, why don\u2019t cities just fix up their old ones for a fraction of the cost?<!--more--><\/p>\n<p>That\u2019s a bad idea for San Diego, according to the head of the mayor\u2019s stadium task force, the Chargers and Qualcomm Stadium\u2019s manager. The sum total of their opinions make it clear: Renovating Qualcomm isn\u2019t going to happen.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe don\u2019t really believe it\u2019s feasible,\u201d task force chairman Adam Day said.<\/p>\n<p>There are lots of different reasons why a renovation won\u2019t work here, they all say:<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_843\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-843\" style=\"width: 650px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"https:\/\/missionvalleynews.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/04\/IMG_1905web.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-843 size-full lazyload\" data-src=\"https:\/\/missionvalleynews.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/04\/IMG_1905web.jpg\" alt=\"IMG_1905web\" width=\"650\" height=\"390\" src=\"data:image\/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAAAAACH5BAEKAAEALAAAAAABAAEAAAICTAEAOw==\" style=\"--smush-placeholder-width: 650px; --smush-placeholder-aspect-ratio: 650\/390;\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-843\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The last time the city tried to renovate the stadium, it ended up with calls for a new stadium just a few years later. (Photo by Jeremy Ogul)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><strong>Qualcomm wasn\u2019t built just for football.<\/strong> When it opened in the late 1960s, the stadium housed both the Padres and Chargers so views for fans aren\u2019t maximized for football. That affects seating and what the team could charge for the best tickets in the house.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe design is dated,\u201d said stadium manager Mike McSweeney. \u201cIn order to come in and renovate it, you\u2019d basically have to take it to the ground.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>This is the same reason that most recent stadium renovation can\u2019t serve as a model for San Diego. Five years ago, Kansas City <a href=\"http:\/\/www.buffalonews.com\/sports\/bills-nfl\/how-kansas-city-made-an-old-stadium-work-20140824\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">renovated the Chiefs stadium<\/a> for $375 million instead of spending $1 billion-plus on a new stadium.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe cost issue dictated the answer,\u201d said Jim Rowland, who manages the Kansas City stadium.<\/p>\n<p>But Kansas City\u2019s stadium was originally built only for football, meaning it didn\u2019t have the view issues that Qualcomm does. The city was able to keep the stadium\u2019s bowl and just build a new structure around it, Rowland said.<\/p>\n<p><strong>The stadium is broken.<\/strong> Qualcomm <a href=\"http:\/\/www.voiceofsandiego.org\/topics\/land-use\/whats-broken-at-qualcomm-stadium\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">needs about $80 million in repairs<\/a>, including new plumbing, wiring and a scoreboard. There are also problems that have built up over the years that would be hard to fix. Workers who upgraded the soda machines in the stadium years ago didn\u2019t entirely rip out the previous system, McSweeney said. On really hot days, syrup from the old tubes will leak out the walls and onto the floor, he said. \u201cWe can\u2019t see in the cement,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Past renovations didn\u2019t work<\/strong>. A previous renovation in 1997 left the stadium with two different foundations that would make earthquake-proofing difficult, Day said. Beyond that, the 1997 renovation led to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.voiceofsandiego.org\/topics\/land-use\/how-san-diego-loses-so-much-money-on-qualcomm-stadium\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">a money-losing contract with the Chargers<\/a> and calls for a brand-new stadium just a few years later.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_845\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-845\" style=\"width: 291px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"https:\/\/missionvalleynews.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/04\/IMG_1918web.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-845 lazyload\" data-src=\"https:\/\/missionvalleynews.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/04\/IMG_1918web-291x300.jpg\" alt=\"Events like the Qualcomm Stadium Swap Meet would no longer be possible if the stadium parking lots were redeveloped to pay for a new stadium. (Photo by Jeremy Ogul)\" width=\"291\" height=\"300\" src=\"data:image\/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAAAAACH5BAEKAAEALAAAAAABAAEAAAICTAEAOw==\" style=\"--smush-placeholder-width: 291px; --smush-placeholder-aspect-ratio: 291\/300;\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-845\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Events like the Qualcomm Stadium Swap Meet would no longer be possible if the stadium parking lots were redeveloped to pay for a new stadium. (Photo by Jeremy Ogul)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Still, these renovation hurdles have been known for a while. And they haven\u2019t kept stadium watchers from talking about doing it, even people who are friendly to the Chargers.<\/p>\n<p>Less than three years ago, developer and U-T San Diego owner Doug Manchester, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.utsandiego.com\/news\/2012\/jan\/22\/think-big-think-big-new-vision-needed-for\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">the boosteriest of Chargers boosters<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.voiceofsandiego.org\/mayoral-election-issues-2014\/manchester-give-me-200-million-and-ill-fix-qualcomm-stadium\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">said he could fix the stadium for $200 million<\/a>. In 2009, NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell <a href=\"http:\/\/www.voiceofsandiego.org\/all-narratives\/slop\/nfl-renovation-meme-a-complete-nonstory\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">floated a Qualcomm renovation<\/a> as well.<\/p>\n<p>For more than a decade, though, the Chargers have smacked down the idea. The last time the city had a stadium task force, the team\u2019s architects said <a href=\"http:\/\/www.voiceofsandiego.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/Chargers-2003-stadium-presentation.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">a renovation wouldn\u2019t be much cheaper than a new stadium<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe only serious studies of renovation that have been done for Qualcomm have concluded that renovation doesn\u2019t make sense for a long list of reasons,\u201d said Mark Fabiani, the Chargers stadium point man.<\/p>\n<p>The local branch of the American Institute of Architects recently came to that answer, even though architects initially thought otherwise. But it wasn\u2019t all for the reasons you might think.<\/p>\n<p>Last month, Daniel Stewart, the local chapter\u2019s vice president, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.utsandiego.com\/news\/2015\/mar\/06\/the-q-has-great-bones-and-its-site-has-great\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">penned an op-ed<\/a> arguing for a renovation.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWith some imagination and focused design effort, San Diego can capitalize on these great bones and transform it into a state-of-the-art football venue,\u201d <a href=\"http:\/\/www.utsandiego.com\/news\/2015\/mar\/06\/the-q-has-great-bones-and-its-site-has-great\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Stewart wrote<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>After the op-ed published, Stewart and an architect colleague of his, Jack Carpenter, met with Doug Barnhardt, who owns a construction company and is a member of the task force. Barnhardt explained some the site\u2019s renovation difficulties \u2014 facts that gave the architect group pause. Carpenter left the meeting convinced that a renovation wasn\u2019t going to happen. He still believes that it\u2019s physically possible, but opposition from the Chargers and the task force meant the idea was dead.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe politics are going to upstage the economics,\u201d Carpenter said.<\/p>\n<p>But Day, the task force chairman, believes the economics make his case. Day told me that his group has done some rough calculations on the cost of a renovation. He figures it would cost $100 million <a href=\"http:\/\/www.voiceofsandiego.org\/topics\/land-use\/whats-broken-at-qualcomm-stadium\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">to fix the stuff that\u2019s broken<\/a>, $150 million to $300 million for earthquake-proofing and another $200 million to $300 million to give the stadium all the modern restaurants, wide concourses, restrooms and other upgrades <a href=\"http:\/\/www.voiceofsandiego.org\/topics\/land-use\/the-chargers-beef-with-qualcomm\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">the team wants<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWhy would you spend $700 (million) when you can spend a few hundred million more and get a brand new facility?\u201d Day said.<\/p>\n<p>I reminded Day of the task force\u2019s recent presentation to a City Council committee, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.kpbs.org\/news\/2015\/mar\/19\/chargers-task-force-update-city-council-committee\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">which listed a new stadium price tag<\/a> as between $700 million and $1.5 billion. Isn\u2019t a $700 million renovation a lot less than $1.5 billion new stadium?<\/p>\n<p>Day said he expects a new stadium will end up in the middle of the cost estimate. Think $1 billion or so.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI don\u2019t think there\u2019s anyone in our committee thinking you need to spend $1.5 billion to get everything you need for a stadium here,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n<p>Still, a roughly $400 million gap between the cost of a renovation and a new stadium isn\u2019t nothing. Back in 2003, when the Chargers pitched a new stadium as part of a redevelopment of the Qualcomm site, the price tag for <a href=\"http:\/\/www.voiceofsandiego.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/Chargers-2003-stadium-presentation.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">the whole thing was $400 million<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><em>\u2014Liam Dillon is senior reporter and assistant editor for Voice of San Diego. He leads VOSD\u2019s investigations and writes about how regular people interact with local government. What should he write about next? Please contact him directly at <a href=\"mailto:liam.dillon@voiceofsandiego.org\">liam.dillon@voiceofsandiego.org<\/a> or 619-550-5663.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>[socialpoll id=&#8221;2264262&#8243;]<\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>By Liam Dillon |\u00a0Voice of San Diego The appeal is obvious. 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